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Thread #130546   Message #2938945
Posted By: mousethief
02-Jul-10 - 11:01 PM
Thread Name: Does Religion Deny Music to Children?
Subject: RE: Religion denies music to children?
I don't understand, String, why religious people should have to go into the closet, like pre-Stonewall gays, in order to not offend anybody by displaying their religion in public. That seems to be what you are saying.

I understand the separation of church and state, and support it wholeheartedly, for the good of both.

Don Firth said, Brakes on, folks! Martin Luther wrote "Ein' feste Burg ist unser Gott" ("A Mighty Fortress is Our God"), along with a whole batch of other hymns. It doesn't sound to me as if he was opposed to music in the church.

I didn't say he was opposed to music. He was opposed to instruments in the church. Two different things.

Tootler said: They were notorious for objecting to music and dancing but in fact they did not, on the whole, object to music and dancing as such but to music and dancing in Church - other than the unison singing of the Psalms.

If you've ever seen so-called "liturgical dance" I think you can have some sympathy for their point of view. ;)

buddhuu said: So, I don't think I was too wide of the mark comparing some Christians and Jews objecting to some music, with some Muslims objecting to some music.

Right, understandable. But the OP was about some Muslims who apparently don't like ANY music. Comparing those Muslims (who apparently are a very small majority, thankfully) to Christians who don't want their kids to listen to rock and roll really is apples and piston rings.

ibid: Please also point out to me any impolite or intolerant langauge in my posts in this topic. and To me, most religions seem equally dishonest, arrogant and frankly offensive to one or another degree.

That is extremely rude, and saying "To me" at the beginning doesn't make it any less so. Not terribly tolerant either.