Getting a bit thin, using my absurd nom de plume and trying to get into a deep thoughtful debate... However, onwards and downwards.

I too had not heard of young earth creationism but if the title is descriptive, I have huge issues taking anything Kent Davis says seriously. after all, if somebody starts a conversation with you by saying "Oh, by the way. You are a green frog and I am a dancing statue" you wouldn't want to discuss much of importance with them. So as the earth is, as a solidish orb, a few billion years old, and our understanding of science advances, this brings the debate full circle.

We started by asking if children should be excluded from music. well, music is a nice abstraction but in the final analysis, you can enjoy it when your silly parents are not around. Science however opens your mind to how the world works and if you make it your study, you can do something useful with your life afterwards with it. Like make the world a better place for us all.

I know Joe Offer tries (quite rightly) to take all views on board, but debating seriously with somebody who thinks dinosaurs were put there by some mythical being we call God just to test our faith.... Sorry, I'm not a psychiatrist, so not qualified to reason with irrational people, and feel sorry for Kent's kids because they will resent their parents in time to come, and that is sad.

I read somewhere in this thread that a vicar said "Scouting for Boys" has answers, the bible is full of questions. Well put. Not relevant as you do not need to answer questions put forward thousands of years ago and then translated a few times by people with their own agendas. But well put all the same.

Did make me think though. Perhaps a few priests read Scouting for Boys and misunderstood the title? (Sorry, couldn't resist it.)