Lox is right, atheism is a stance, the stance that there is no God. My point is that there many people, some on this thread, who call people who don't have a stance on religion atheists. I am differentiating of course between having a stance and having a view. I don't have a stance (creed, belief system etc) but I do have a view, (why do people with religious views think they have the right to influence society on the basis of those views?)

Hey Joe,

I hear you, but even after digesting your last post over a decent coffee, I still have problems agreeing. You seem troubled by my (admittedly provocative) use of the word superstitious. Having a moral code based on not upsetting a mythical being is superstition in my view. Calling an elderly German dude "Holy" seems like superstition from where I am coming from. Saying Mohammed wandered off for a few nights and came back knowing what we all must do so not to displease a mythical being sure seems like superstition to me. When some of my friends say they cannot eat meat that is not halal, cannot touch alcohol; it can only be superstition if you miss out the existence of God. As God as ann interventionist being cannot exist, then yep, you are left with superstition.

And I ain't talking Stevie Wonder either....