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Thread #131090   Message #2955537
Posted By: Jack the Sailor
31-Jul-10 - 12:43 AM
Thread Name: BS: Is the Presidency obsolete in the USA?
Subject: RE: BS: Is the Presidency obsolete in the USA?
These are the questions that went through my mind as I read the first post of the thread

>>>As a response to the US generated thread about the Monarchy in the UK;<<<

Why does such a thread need a response?


>>Is the Presidency obsolete? It seems to an outsider from the UK that the USA is actually governed by a coalition of media owners, bankers, arms manufacturers, very rich people and right wing Christian pressure groups.<<<

This seems like sarcasm to me. If it is seriously meant I'd like to know. Perhaps were could discuss political science. But it does not read like a serious statement to me. It seems like an insult in response to an "impertinent" American questioning his political system.

If you don't like the word "attack" that's fine. But it is pretty dismissive and insulting wouldn't you agree?

>>>Presidents seem to be elected by unreliable voting systems, and are effectively emasculated (by the vested interests detailed above) within a year of taking office, so what's the point of having one? Why not just let those with real power get on with it?<<<

This is an insult to everyone who votes in the US. He is saying you are stupid to vote because your political system is a sham. What is worse, through the whole thing he is implying that in comparison, his political system has no faults.

Having read this, I asked him if he was attacking.

He did not say he was not attacking, on the contrary, he attacked me.

Which brings me to..

"Even if it had been, how on earth would that be an "attack on Americans in general"? Any more than a "sarcastic attack" on the politixcal system of any other country should be seen as an attack on the people of that country? "

In my opinion in a democracy the people are responsible for the political system.

Ad that to

"Why not just let those with real power get on with it?"

I see an attack on the voters of the US.

As I said, I was simply asking if that was what was intended. Mandotim has more than fully answered that question to my satisfaction. I am done discussing this with him and if no one else has anything to say to me on this topic, I am done with this thread.