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Thread #115883   Message #2960120
Posted By: Sawzaw
07-Aug-10 - 01:21 PM
Thread Name: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration
Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration
Amos: "Looks like he's also moving closer to unwinding Bush's Folly in Iraq, as a bonus; nothing like saving American lives to piss off the hard-core righties. So I guess he's making it happen despite the worst the RNCers have been able to heave at him."

Is this another of your history lessons? It reminds me of the old country expression "you are full o' shit as a Christmas turkey"

Try a little reality for a change Amos. Obama has done nothing but follow Bush's plan, the plan that he originally opposed and that he said would not work.

1/10/07 " I am not persuaded that 20,000 additional troops in Iraq is going to solve the sectarian violence there. In fact, I think it will do the reverse. I think it takes pressure off the Iraqis to arrive at the sort of political accommodation that every observer believes is the ultimate solution to the problems we face there. So I am going to actively oppose the president's proposal. … I think he is wrong, and I think the American people believe he's wrong."

1/14/07 "We cannot impose a military solution on what has effectively become a civil war. And until we acknowledge that reality -- we can send 15,000 more troops, 20,000 more troops, 30,000 more troops, I don't know any expert on the region or any military officer that I've spoken to privately that believes that that is going to make a substantial difference on the situation on the ground."

10/22/06 "Given the deteriorating situation, it is clear at this point that we cannot, through putting in more troops or maintaining the presence that we have, expect that somehow the situation is going to improve, and we have to do something significant to break the pattern that we've been in right now." (NBC's "Meet The Press,"

1/28/08 "And finally, tonight we heard President Bush say that the surge in Iraq is working, when we know that's just not true. Yes, our valiant soldiers have helped reduce the violence. Five soldiers gave their lives today in this cause, and we mourn their loss and pray for their families.

But let there be no doubt – the Iraqi government has failed to seize the moment to reach the compromises necessary for an enduring peace. That was what we were told the surge was all about. So the only way we're finally going to pressure the Iraqis to reconcile and take responsibility for their future is to immediately begin the responsible withdrawal of our combat brigades so that we can bring all of our combat troops home.

But another reason we need to begin this withdrawal immediately"

Listen to the broken promises made in this post election speech yourself.

Amos: Before you go off on one of your rhetorical attacks, just explain in common factual terms how Obama has done anything other than abandon his own plan of immediate withdrawal from Iraq, infact broken his promise of immediate withdrawal from Iraq, in favor of the existing Bush plan.