Well, seed, Joe, and other folks, it does sound like a good time was had by all. If I were to hear of next year's fest enough in advance to get a cheap airfare, I might try to plan a CA trip at that time. I have family in Southern CA, and I know that's not CLOSE to SF, but it's a lot closer than PA. I take it that it's not a camping fest. Maybe I could get couch space too?Marymac