My Gawd, GfS and Ake! You two guys are pathetic! All the facts in the world and you two clutch onto your beloved misconceptions all the harder. It's like trying to reason with a couple of rocks!

Waste of time. Live on in ignorance. But be aware that, like flat-earthers, no matter what you want to believe, the world is not the way you wish it were.

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I remember an old movie cartoon, one of Wile E. Coyote's first appearances. Rather than the roadrunner, Wile E.'s quarry was Bugs Bunny. Not really an even match in the brains department! At one point, having been flummoxed several times by Bugs, Wile E. was sitting in a dynamite shack and making booby traps by boring out the middle of carrots and stuffing them with dynamite.

Suddenly, the shack begins to shudder, as if there were an earthquake. Wile E. looks out the one window, but he can't see anything in the dark. He goes back to work. But what you see is that Bugs has the shack hooked up to a tractor and he's dragging it onto the railroad tracks.

A few minutes later, as Wile E. continues making booby traps out of carrots, he hears a train whistle, very loud! Again, he looks out the window and sees the light from a locomotive engine swiftly bearing down on him!

He turns and looks at the audience with a silly, nervous smile and beads of perspiration breaking out on his brow, then reaches out and pulls down the window blind.

Then— Ka-BOOM!!!

Think of it this way, GoofuS and Ake:    You are Wile E. Coyote. Bugs Bunny represents Facts. The train is the Real World!

You two make quite credible cartoon figures.

But when you want to deny a whole category of people their civil rights, you're not all that amusing!

Don Firth