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Thread #131549   Message #2971298
Posted By: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
23-Aug-10 - 03:56 PM
Thread Name: Traditional singer definition
Subject: RE: Traditional singer definition
Where does your own singing fit in with all this?

I accept a degree of idiosyncrasy - otherwise I'm strictly a trad roots man myself in line with my Irish-Northumbrian heritage with strong links north of the border. Most people accuse me of being too traditional in my approach.

From what I've heard of it, it is as far from a redition by any traditional singer as I have ever heard (you right to choose, of course)

Like any traditional singer you care to name, I sing in my own voice with mannerisms determined by physical factors & other influences, conscious or otherwise. Traditional singers I pay special attention to in this respect - Davie Stewart, Phil Tanner and Willie Scott, who didn't sound like anyone else either. My right to choose? Hell, I've been singing folk songs since I was fourteen - and like any other singer I can only do so as nature has seen fit to endow me. I rarely sing unaccompanied, but there again I root that back to drones & modality in a generally improvisatory approach in keeping with the tradition (rather than chords which aren't). Shame you keep kicking up a stink, old man - I'm sure if you took a more civil approach we could have some constructive discussion on such matters.   

so once again you are accusing somebody of doing something that you apparently have no hesitation of doing yourself - as with your edict of not being able to alter texts, on a previous thread.

Nonsense. That argument was about messing with texts in the name of The Tradition & The Folk Process, which is spurious bullshit. I treat traditional texts as sacrosanct - a matter of personal opinion & reverence of the source, however it has come down to us. I might drop the odd verse for various reasons (such as those obviously added by later hands) but I never add anything, or otherwise consciously change texts.   

MacColl, and others of the revival you have snided at in the past, at least followed the logic of the tradition by staying faithful to its narrative function; totally absent from your own approach.

I suggest you take your finger out of your ear, old man - I am a storyteller, and as such my entire craft is devoted to Traditional Narrative idioms - ballads and folk songs included. Dialect can be a problem, but I don't mess with that either; language, imagery, and narrative dynamic are the prime considerations of any peformance of traditional material, spoken or sung, and encourage others to do likewise even unto accusations of being too much of a stickler for such things.