amos-as i understand it,the fossil record is not as neat and tidy as commonly believed ie fossil specimens in the wrong strata.i would be interested to know how you account for fossilised trees through several geologic ages ie not rotting away.in case you havent guessed,the creationist answer is rapid deposition in the global flood.bill-sure there are more secular scientists like their are less christians period.some of these secular scientists have been honest enough to admit they are evolutionist philosophically rather than scientifically convinced.