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Posted By: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
26-Sep-10 - 09:51 PM
Thread Name: BS: On Acts 4:32-35
Subject: RE: BS: On Acts 4:32-35
I guess I could have said it this way:

In socialism, there is an expectation, that everyone is expected to provide for the needs of everyone else, either in a community, or country, or even the entire world, whatever parameters you wish for it to extend. However, this is not consistent with the early Christian church, even though, as I pointed out before, that the disciples, at the time, elected to do that, because they were focused on 'spreading the Gospel', instead of amassing personal material gain. Paul, was a tent maker, makes a point of pointing that out, so he could not be accused of, making a living, from his preaching; that what he was doing, was NOT for 'profit'.

If that isn't enough, I could have said it this way..from several different translations:

        
New International Version (©1984)
If anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for his immediate family, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

New Living Translation (©2007)
But those who won't care for their relatives, especially those in their own household, have denied the true faith. Such people are worse than unbelievers.

English Standard Version (©2001)
But if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

International Standard Version (©2008)
If anyone does not take care of his own relatives, especially his immediate family, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
If anyone doesn't take care of his own relatives, especially his immediate family, he has denied the Christian faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

King James Bible
But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

American King James Version
But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he has denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

American Standard Version
But if any provideth not for his own, and specially his own household, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an unbeliever.

Bible in Basic English
If anyone has no care for his family and those in his house, he is false to the faith, and is worse than one who has no faith.

Douay-Rheims Bible
But if any man have not care of his own, and especially of those of his house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

Darby Bible Translation
But if any one does not provide for his own, and specially for those of his house, he has denied the faith, and is worse than the unbeliever.

English Revised Version
But if any provideth not for his own, and specially his own household, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an unbeliever.

Webster's Bible Translation
But if any provideth not for his own, and especially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

Weymouth New Testament
But if a man makes no provision for those dependent on him, and especially for his own family, he has disowned the faith and is behaving worse than an unbeliever.

World English Bible
But if anyone doesn't provide for his own, and especially his own household, he has denied the faith, and is worse than an unbeliever.

Young's Literal Translation
and if any one for his own -- and especially for those of the household -- doth not provide, the faith he hath denied, and than an unbeliever he is worse.
Barnes' Notes on the Bible

But if any provide not for his own - The apostle was speaking 1 Timothy 5:4 particularly of the duty of children toward a widowed mother. In enforcing that duty, he gives the subject, as he often does in similar cases, a general direction, and says that all ought to provide for those who were dependent on them, and that if they did not do this, they had a less impressive sense of the obligations of duty than even the pagan had. On the duty here referred to, compare Romans 12:17 note; 2 Corinthians 8:21 note. The meaning is, that the person referred to is to think beforehand (προνοεἶ pronoei) of the probable needs of his own family, and make arrangements to meet them. God thus provides for our needs; that is, he sees beforehand what we shall need, and makes arrangements for those needs by long preparation. The food that we eat, and the raiment that we wear, he foresaw that we should need, and the arrangement for the supply was made years since, and to meet these needs he has been carrying forward the plans of his providence in the seasons; in the growth of animals; in the formation of fruit; in the bountiful harvest. So, according to our measure, we are to anticipate what will be the probable needs of our families, and to make arrangements to meet them. The words "his own," refer to those who are naturally dependent on him, whether living in his own immediate family or not. There may be many distant relatives naturally dependent on our aid, besides those who live in our own house.

And specially for those of his own house - Margin, "kindred." The word "house," or "household," better expresses the sense than the word "kindred." The meaning is, those who live in his own family. They would naturally have higher claims on him than those who did not. They would commonly be his nearer relatives, and the fact, from whatever cause, that they constituted his own family, would lay the foundation for a strong claim upon him. He who neglected his own immediate family would be more guilty than he who neglected a more remote relative.

He hath denied the faith - By his conduct, perhaps, not openly. He may be still a professor of religion and do this; but he will show that he is imbued with none of the spirit of religion, and is a stranger to its real nature. The meaning is, that he would, by such an act, have practically renounced Christianity, since it enjoins this duty on all. We may hence learn that it is possible to deny the faith by conduct as well as by words; and that a neglect of doing our duty is as real a denial of Christianity as it would be openly to renounce it. Peter denied his Lord in one way, and thousands do the same thing in another. He did it in words; they by neglecting their duty to their families, or their duty in their closets, or their duty in attempting to send salvation to their fellow-men, or by an openly irreligious life. A neglect of any duty is so far a denial of the faith.

And is worse than an infidel - The word here does not mean an infidel, technically so called, or one who openly professes to disbelieve Christianity, but anyone who does not believe; that is, anyone who is not a sincere Christian. The word, therefore, would include the pagan, and it is to them, doubtless, that the apostle particularly refers. They acknowledged the obligation to provide for their relatives. This was one of the great laws of nature written on their hearts, and a law which they felt bound to obey. Few things were inculcated more constantly by pagan moralists than this duty. Gelgacus, in Tacitus, says, "Nature dictates that to every one, his own children and relatives should be most dear." Cicero says, "Every man should take care of his own family " -

Any questions???

GfS