there are people who quit coming to our local song circle...for various reasons. Some quit because the 'quality' wasn't high enough. Some because the group talked too much to suit them. Some because they had pressing 'life' elsewhere. Some because they realized after a few times that we did not use 'Rise Up Singing' as our major input and had only a little bit of singer/songwriter performances....but after 25+ years, we are still having nice evenings.

Face it...no place can be all things to all people, and some folks have a higher threshold of pain and a better ability sort wheat from chaff.