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Thread #132392 Message #2995854
Posted By: John MacKenzie
29-Sep-10 - 04:44 AM
Thread Name: BS: Emma Thompson attacks poor language
Subject: RE: BS: Emma Thompson attacks poor language
"Just as a side question: Do Scottish newspapers print stories using broad Scots dialect, similar to how a few folks post? Are modern books printed like Burns would have spoken? I never understood how this works." Bill, please don't confuse accent or dialect with grammar. It used to be said, that the best English in the UK, was spoken in Inverness. By that they meant grammatical English, as they do have their own particular accent in Inverness. What I take from Miss Thompson's comments is this. If you speak gangsta with your friends, that's quaint but OK, if you go for a job interbview and still speak gangsta, you're an eedjit. A couple of comments from other sources, re the Scots versus English dialect.
THROW THE R AWAY - The Proclaimers
I've been so sad Since you said my accent was bad He's worn a frown This Caledonian clown
Some days I stand On your green and pleasant land How dare I show face When my diction is such a disgrace
You say that if I want to get ahead The language I use should be left for dead It doesn't please your ear And though you tell it like a leg-pull It seems your still full of John Bull You just REFUSE to hear
Oh what can I do To be understood by you Perhaps for some money I could talk like a bee dripping honey.
I'm just going to have to learn to hesitate To make sure my words On your Saxon ears don't grate But I wouldn't know a single word to say If I flattened all the vowels And threw the 'R' away ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Listen Tae The Teacher
Nancy Nicholson
He's 5 year auld, he's aff tae school Fairmer's bairn wi a pencil and a rule His teacher scoffs when he says "hoose" "The word is house, you silly little goose" He tells his ma when he gets back He saa a mouse in an auld cairt track His faither laughs fae the stackyard dyke "Yon's a MOOSE ye daft wee tyke"
chorus:
Listen tae the teacher, dinna say dinna Listen tae the teacher, dinna say hoose Listen tae the teacher, ye canna say maunna Listen tae the teacher, ye maunna say moose
He bit his lip an shut his mooth Which one could he trust for truth He took his burden o'er the hill Tae auld grey Geordie o' the mill "An did they mock thee for thy tongue Wi them sae auld and you sae young? They werena makin a fool o' ye They were makin a fool o' themsels ye see"
Say hoose tae the faither, house tae the teacher Moose tae the fairmer, mouse tae the preacher When yer young it's weel for you Tae dae in Rome as Romans do But when ye grow an ye are auld Ye needna dae as ye are tauld Don't trim yer tongue tae suit yon dame That scorns the language o' her hame
Then teacher thocht that he was fine He kept in step, he stayed in line Faither says that he was gran' He spoke his ain tongue like a man An when he grew and made his choice He chose his Scots, his native voice And I charge ye tae dae likewise Spurn yon pair misguided cries +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
THE NEW TEACHER (Written by Jim Douglas)
chorus: Now is a Dove a Doo Dad? Is a Doo a Dove? And is a cow a coo Dad? A sparrow jist a spyug? And is a wall a wa' Dad? Is a dog a dug? She's gawn tae warm ma ear Dad Instead o' skelp ma lug.
Oor new teacher's awfi posh Dad She chinges aw oor names Oor Shuggie is now 'Hugh' Dad And Jimmy's always 'James' 'Am puzzled wi' it a' Dad Tae why she shoogles words Ans ah must be glaekit no' tae ken That feathered friends are 'burds'
chorus.
Now there's twa words for everything They're shoogled in ma heid How can I be well bred Dad When ah keep sayin' 'breed' Now is a crow a 'craw' Dad? Is a bull a 'buul'? A'm goin' tae try ma best Dad Ah wuull, ah wuull, ah wuull.
chorus.
Well ye've taught me aw wrong Dad Ye call a ball a 'baw' Yer wife is now my mother Dad Ye said she wiz ma maw It fairly maks me scunnered Ah'll never pass ma test A'm no sure whit a'm wearing noo - a semmet or a vest.