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Thread #132437   Message #2997159
Posted By: The Fooles Troupe
30-Sep-10 - 06:14 PM
Thread Name: BS: True Test of an Atheist
Subject: RE: BS: True Test of an Atheist
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Foolestroupe, If you are saying that the combination of chemicals create energy, then I think you are in error. What causes them to re-act? What system? ....and where did that come from??..More re-action from....? Somewhere, along the line, there is an 'origin'......
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You cannot discuss Science with someone who does not understand any of its basic concepts. Eg, "What causes them to re-act - What system?" - Science merely says - the 'desire of the universe to tend towards a lower state of energy - entropy. Hey - 'entropy' is 'just one of the convenient explanations we have for things we can't fully explain, yet'

"Somewhere, along the line, there is an 'origin'"

That is clearly outside the bounds of 'Science' - by the very definition of what 'Science' is - so that's where 'matters of faith and belief' - usually referred to as 'religious matters' take over. I don't particularly CARE WHAT anyone believes as 'the origin', personally it doesn't matter to me - and most 'atheists' also just aren't too obsessed or worried - but 'the religious' DO have 'a need' for a 'simple' explanation, such as 'my very own personal magical invisible sky fairy did it'.

If that 'belief' makes people happy, and easier to live with in a cooperative society in general, fine - atheists are fairly pragmatic, but definitely do get annoyed when those who believe in their own particular 'magical invisible sky fairy' insist - for their own personal psychological reasons - on everyone ELSE following the alleged dictates of this 'magical invisible sky fairy'... it's called 'dominating others' - 'politics' etc, ... it gets REALLY annoying when it turns into 'my very own personal magical invisible sky fairy talks to me all the time and nobody but me can hear him and you must all do what I say!' - atheists just wait patiently for the day (that pragmatically will probably never dawn) when all those who profess that are just considered mental patients ...

:-)

Oh, and referring to various comments by others, when those making such controlling demands of society definitely 'say one thing and do another contrary to what they publicly profess', then try to hide from the very consequences they demand of others when exposed, the limits of Tolerance by Atheists do get rather close to the limit ...