Steve, I have no problem with anything you have said since my last post except that you totally fail to address the point I am making.

Initially I asked for clarification of your statement -

A mutation is miscopying of heritable material. If you want to demonstrate that any such miscopying is random you're going to have to show that there was no cause.

Foolestroupe intervened on your behalf but failed to answer the question. I then asked "Are you and Steve claiming that there is a cause for the specific new order of bases after the miscopying?" to which you replied -

Why not? There would be a cause for the initial impetus to change and a cause for the particular way of recombining.

That is what I am questioning.