The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #132437   Message #3001437
Posted By: TheSnail
06-Oct-10 - 08:35 PM
Thread Name: BS: True Test of an Atheist
Subject: RE: BS: True Test of an Atheist
In the absence of any answer to my question to Steve, I'll just have to use this -

But if it's a process requiring inputs, those inputs must be identical otherwise this doesn't apply. I'm saying that it's next to impossible to provide identical inputs into biological systems. There's far too much going on.

As I've already said, you've replaced random outcomes with random causes. The result is the same in practice, natural selection is presented with random mutations. It is natural selection that is non-random.

Your position is rather similar to the theists. They can't believe that anything as complex as the universe could arise by itself so they invent an equally complex creator with no explanation of where He came from.