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Thread #132437   Message #3005066
Posted By: Ed T
12-Oct-10 - 07:02 AM
Thread Name: BS: True Test of an Atheist
Subject: RE: BS: True Test of an Atheist
Foolestroupe
I guess there is alway a possibility of it being an issue in my society, but I have never seen any sign of it, and I do keep an ey to issues. Folks are very tolerant to each others beliefs, and church and state are clearly separated.

I can see you had conflict rationalizing your former faith with your views today. I have no such conflict, and it has never been an issue. Possibly it is easier because I have shed associations with organized religion years ago (as I saw no need for it, and did see harm within), and think objectively for myself.

Maybe I can give an example of what I see as belief, and why it is complex to proove...as one would tend to do in science. You and I may have a belief that our wives are more beautiful. I gues there likely is some time of a tes to prove which of us is right...taking various attractive features into consideration. But, even if that test was applied and we were proven wrong, I suspect it would not impact our belief that our wives were more beautiful.

Some of the non believers focus on what seems to be very improbable, according to science tests, when it comes to proving if there is a God. But, because you are dealing with a belief, all that does not matter to one who believes in a God. The belief is imbedded inside, and with most folks never comes up in any discussion. Sure there are very many historic accounts (for example in the Christian Bible( that may not make sense scientifically, and do not hold up to its rigid tests. But, that does not matter a hill of beans to those who hav a belief, likely established in childhood. If a historic account does not make scientific sense, it does not matter to me...as I take many historic accounts as having a broader message I can seek and learn from.

So, I go back to my assessment that a personal belief in God in itself causes little if any harm. In fact, in many cases it is personally beneficial for many, though not for all. The problem is with other aspects associated with organized religion....and examples are not difficult to find.

You have seemed to have found a place that works for you. Others have found a different place. I suspect neither is wrong. I could be wrong, but I detect some bitterness on your part. Could that be influencing you in your strong expressions that the children of those who believe in God should not be exposed to the belief? Why would you deny them the internal peace of mind that this belief has given to their parents? Most people, like you, want to pass on good things totheir children, not bad things.