Max - I know the suicide thing was only an analogy, but it does perpetuate some misconceptions. While it is true that most people who threaten suicide or make a half-hearted suicide attempt, do not go on to commit suicide - it is also thrue that the vast majority of people who do commit suicide have threatened or tried it in the past. Therefore, every "cry for help" should be taken seriously.

I have nowt to say about mudcatters leaving though...

Bagpuss