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Thread #132317   Message #3006775
Posted By: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
14-Oct-10 - 08:32 AM
Thread Name: The CD-R Folk CD
Subject: RE: The CD-R Folk CD
Sure you can try to convince people these things are imbued with a numinous significance. But it's an uphill struggleL I don't see any takers.

Takers? I'd be surprised, I realy would. Just as there is a symbiosis between Frazerian (popular) Folklore and emergent (neo) Paganism, all such ethnography might resonate in similar terms - be it the (mass produced) souvenir of Blackpool Tower or the (mass produced) glow-in-the-dark plastic statuette of Our Lady of Fatima. Anything can be deemed ceremonial but not anything is ceremonial; it is not the thing, but the significance of the thing. In this instance I'm celebrating the Home Produced CD-R Folk Album and why they are invariably passed off as being CDs. So, in this instance the numinous is entirely mundane; besides which, I'm not tying to convince anyone of anything, though there is a certain anti-folk irony in trying to make handcrafted artefacts look (& sound) mass produced & (therefore) professional.   

I've listend to the myspace pages of the "feral" artists you celebrate,

I wasn't aware I've celebrated any artists as such; by my reckoning feral isn't about musical idiom, and pretty much any artist who is moved to home-produced their own CD album is doing something feral - be it a floor singer in a folk club, or a busker singing standards to backing tracks. Feral, in this instance, is entirely about context. I believe even the late great Don 'Lofty' Estelle was reduced to busking & selling home produced cassettes / CD-R albums in his latter days; Peter Bellamy likewise, or any number of street & folk musicians I encounter on a daily basis. The sort of music they do is besides the point, fact is these are people the Music Industry wouldn't touch with a bargepole.

You're saying folk CDRs are inherently feral - that's any folk CDRs, irrespective of what the music is - in a way that's somehow different from folk CDs.

Pretty much; I'm talking about amateur rather than professional product, which the CD-R has facillitated owing to its resemblance to the CD. A while back I was doing our CD-Rs on all-black Riteks just so they didn't look like CDs; even the unbranded Taiyo Yudens we use now have a greenish sheen to them. Such is availability of the technioloy that anyone with access to the most basic computer can make a CD-R album of their repertoir. Seems to me quite a lot of people do, but very few of these are going to end up with glowing reviews in fRoots, or featuring on Folk on 2, or getting any sort of wider distribution beyond word of mouth, but I doubt that's why people are doing it, so for that reason alone it is different, and, dare I say, significant.