Well, if you can't wait for Singtime Frolics..you have a lucky chance because Vancouver B.C. is having theirs in a few weeks..I forget theexact date..mid-november I think the week before Thanksgiving. Around $140 US I think. Nice accomodations and food for that sort of thing. Easy to get too even by public transportation..just get to Vancouver and take a bus back to Camp Alexandra..used to be direct but now you have to do a SKy Train thing. Don't think I can make it this year though. lmg