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Thread #132437   Message #3008129
Posted By: GUEST,josep
15-Oct-10 - 07:58 PM
Thread Name: BS: True Test of an Atheist
Subject: RE: BS: True Test of an Atheist
A man is not what he says, a man is what he does.

Talk is cheap. Whining is the cheapest of all. I'm not fatalistic, I'm realistic. If you come in here whining about how intolerant your community is but you aren't doing anything about it--two words: SHUT UP!

You're not going to be known by your lofty condemnations under an alian in some internet forum; you're going to be known for what you did about the situation, which in your case is NOTHING!!

What a bunch of candy-ass whiners you people are.

///Gallileo believed in his telescope but protected himself against his death so that his wisdom could be later shared by science.///

That's right--he continued to publish writings on his discoveries while under permanent house arrest. He didn't whine in private and stay silent in public. He continued to do what he could.

///I don't choose to live in a hell-hole and I don't choose to leave a country who wants to make of it a hell-hole and the fact that I would have to suffer for this sounds very paternalistic and punitive. This "welcome to the world" philosophy is fatalistic and in a sense complacent since it assumes that this is the way things have to be.///

I never said that. I said that's how things ARE. Doesn't matter if it's fair--deal with it--no whining.

///The fact that one has to take lumps for expressing his/her belief is regrettable.////

Oh, wah!!! It's been happening for centuries. Go cry to Medgar Evers who took a bullet for speaking out. That's why he's remembered today--for his bravery. If he lived in silence, we wouldn't know his name.

///It also emphasizes injustice.///

So you're going to whine about it??? Great way to get rid of injustice--whining.

//To accept that is tantamount to endorsing it.///

I never said accept it; I said expect it. You're already accepting it by living in fear and silence.

///It's a world that too many fatalists excuse and even unwittingly collaborate in creating.///

The fatalistic ones are the ones who cower in silence while the world around them goes to hell. They whine about it but don't do anything.

How to stand up to bigots

I should also point out that the lady in this story received many death threats but she never backed down.