Sounds to me like you are just clinging negative emtions, searching high and low for something to fight about with Sawzaw (or someone else on the "right"), Bobert, and you are miffed that I'm attempting to be a peacemaker. I am NOT evenly balanced between Right and Left. I'm very much to the Left, as you know, and I do NOT stand on the sidelines, I speak out, but that doesn't stop me from recoginizing some good points that I may share in common with ANY person I'm talking to, regardless of what side of the political line they are on. (I share a great deal in common with you, and less with Sawzaw...but still a goodly amount.) I can see the good in other people whom I disagree with, but you get annoyed when I point it out. Well, I can take that, cos they got mad at Gandhi and Martin Luther King over that too! ;-) And they got mad at Jesus, because he loved EVERYONE!

Your experience of love and respect starts with you, Bobert. Just like it starts with me or anyone else. If you wait for the rest of the world to change first and wait for them to extend the first kindness and understanding to you, you might wait for a loooooong time, brother. They might be just as stubborn as you are about it. You might wait forever.

I agree wholeheartedly with your final comments about corrupt election financing. Yes, that is the problem. The elections are bought and paid for in advance for by the richest in the land...and that goes for sure regardless of whether it's a Democrat or a Republican who gets elected. Both those parties are bought and paid for, as are all our Canadian political parties...by the richest in the land.