Mo I wasn't attacking it I was just saying what the difference is especially if parents need full time hours of nursery care. I did assist at a playgroup did the Foundation course and I loved it, it was ideal for me and my youngest son and then I carried on assisting there when he went to school which conveniently was virtually nextdoor to it and in a village community so it was great. But really what I was saying is it depends on what is best for the parents themselves and the hours they work. The playgroup people do a good job and because of my son's playgroup we did prevent something worse happening to an abused little girl. At least when she was there she had a few hours of happiness.