MMMMMMMMMMM trouble is, and should be probably linked with the thread "should standards be raised" thread. I had a massive row with a performer at a club because I had the temerity to suggest he/she didn't seem to be enjoying the gig, ( was rubbish!) I couldn't see for the life of me why i should pay to see something that was worse than the club residents and musicians at the local sessions, now that may be cos locally there seems to be more good uns than dross about at the moment. Anyway, organising folk events is a thankless task and not everyone will be pleased with the choices, so bums on seats come first I'm afraid.