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Thread #133473   Message #3029052
Posted By: Joe Offer
11-Nov-10 - 03:46 AM
Thread Name: Origins: Jack Tar / Poor Jack / Saucy Sailor
Subject: RE: Origins: Jack Tar / Poor Jack
Here's the Traditional Ballad Index entry:

Saucy Sailor, The (Jack and Jolly Tar II) [Laws K38]

DESCRIPTION: Jack the sailor admits his poverty to a girl, who scorns him and refuses his offer of marriage. He pulls out a handful of money and offers it to her; she instantly changes her mind. But Jack turns the tables; he has no need for a poor country girl
AUTHOR: unknown
EARLIEST DATE: 1781 (broadside)
KEYWORDS: poverty courting money
FOUND IN: US(Ap,NE,SE) Canada(Mar,Newf) Britain(England(Lond,South,West),Scotland(Aber))
REFERENCES (12 citations):
Laws K38, "Saucy Sailor, The (Jack and Jolly Tar II)"
Doerflinger, pp. 294-295, "Jack Tar" (1 text, 1 tune)
Hugill, pp. 461-462, "The Saucy Sailor Boy" (1 text, 1 tune) [AbEd, pp. 343-344]
SharpAp 168, "The Saucy Sailor" (1 text, 1 tune)
Sharp-100E 45, "The Saucy Sailor" (1 text, 1 tune)
GreigDuncan1 49, "The Saucy Sailor" (2 fragments, 2 tunes)
JHCox 123, "The Jack of Tar" ( text)
Flanders/Brown, pp. 151-152, "The Tar-ry Sailor" (1 text)
Creighton/Senior, pp. 202-203, "Saucy Sailor" (2 texts plus 1 excerpt, 2 tunes)
Peacock, pp. 316-317, "Tarry Sailor" (1 text, 1 tune)
Karpeles-Newfoundland 62, "The Saucy Sailor" (1 text, 1 tune)
DT 415, SAUCYSLR* TARSAIL2*

Roud #531
RECORDINGS:
Johnny Doughty, "Come My Own One, Come My Fond One" (on Voice02)
BROADSIDES:
Bodleian, Firth c.12(333), "Saucy Sailor Boy," E.M.A. Hodges (London), 1846-1854; also Harding B 11(3429), Firth c.13(252), Firth c.13(253), Firth c.12(331), Harding B 16(244a), Firth b.26(245), Firth c.13(197), "Saucy Sailor Boy"
CROSS-REFERENCES:
cf. "Will You Wed with a Tarry Sailor?" [Laws K37] (plot)
cf. "Johnny the Sailor (Green Beds) [Laws K36]" (plot)
ALTERNATE TITLES:
The Saucy Jack Tar
Jack Tar
I'm to Cross
Notes: Both GreigDuncan1 fragments are too short to be clearly identified as Laws K38 but the ideas in each brief text are consistent with K38 texts I have seen even if the lines are not in any of those texts. However, they as easily fit (?) "Will You Wed with a Tarry Sailor?" [Laws K37] - BS
File: LK38

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