Please don't put that crap in you messages hesy. You were doing grat with words rolling phrases rolling into sentences. Clearly you are a woman of independent judgement who knows how to express her mind. You don't let your emotions cloud your opinions late on saturday night. Don't let anyone bully you. This thread began a bit like the bird of prey calling the vulture a carnivore and you rightly pointed it out.

I've always found Joe a bit of a pretentious bore and Mainline tedious, except once, when I think Ben Mink sat in with them. Ben Mink is often fabulous. I first heard Ben with Jack Schechtman. When he was at York University, Jack had a cat that pissed in the sink instead of a litter box. There's one to put the laugh back into katlaughing.

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