Well, Bobert, yuh got a point there. I just scrolled thru most of this mess and finally shot down to the end so's I could get my 1/4 mite's worth in. Band width? Over a hundered and some posts so we can all say we don't like it? Don Firth had the best word on it, IMO and there! Use links if it's that important. If you have read and digested some item or idea you ought to be able to reformulate and state it in your own words. If you can't, you don't know what you are talking about in the first place. Ok,is that redudant enough?