I knew Ray Bluen when he was teaching in North Charleston, SC. He and his buddy 'Whale' (I can't remember his real name) opened a bar downtown Charleston called 'The Whales' Tail' but it didn't go over. I sure loved to listen to them and drink a pitcher of beer. I lost track of him after he moved to (W.) Virginia. I don't think 'Whale' is with us anymore. I think 'The Whale's Tail' folded because it was very hard to find and word didn't get around and of course they weren't doing 'mainstream' music. I know it wasn't because of the music, because that was GREAT!