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Thread #134621   Message #3067788
Posted By: Stu
05-Jan-11 - 11:56 AM
Thread Name: BS: Dinosaurs and Unicorns on the Ark!
Subject: RE: BS: Dinosaurs and Unicorns on the Ark!
"he is certainly ioving, as ultimately demonstrated in the sacrifice of Christ for our sin.
but being just and holy; punishment is necessary."


Is he Pete? What about the parasitic nematode worms Onchocerca volvulus that cause river blindness across the world. According to creationism, God apparently saw fit to create this animal (and others like it) which infect millions every year, causes immense suffering and death to people whose only sin is to be born into a poor, tropical country.

Of course you might say that 'the Lord works in mysterious ways', or try blaming the victim for some unknown transgression of a law lain down by the representatives of a God they have never heard of, but that would hardly be compatible with the loving, benevolent God you worship. It would suggest he meant to cause that suffering - he condemned those people in a lottery of suffering visited upon them by the arbitrary feeding patterns of another of his creatures that delivers this parasite, a fly. You can't say God didn't create this animal with this life-cycle as you must believe he did. To deny he did is to deny the creation, to deny God. But to accept he did create this worm is also to accept in his wisdom he new he would inflict suffering on people who were not even born then. Countless generations of suffering on his whim. How does that square with a loving God?

Now I'm guessing that God is happy enough for science to struggle to find ways of avoiding and curing these horrendous diseases and infections, but isn't loving enough to do it himself or even not create the creature that causes this suffering in the first place. It seems not though.

Of course, it might just be that this animal evolved to fill a niche which includes having humans as part of its life cycle with all the unpleasant consequences that means for the victims. It evolved without malice or as part of some grand scheme, another element of our biosphere we are trying to understand and cope with, from mosquito nets to DNA.

Which is more than creationism could ever allow.