Friend Lorcan,
Thou hast become too wordy for me to follow. Simplicity in speech would be helpful.

Ironic is it not that both "Quaker presidents" were not really very Quaker? Hence, imo, not worthy of comment.

You had a better FDS than I. I had to do my learning about Q tradition, thought, organization and procedure as an adult. I am currently involved in defining consideration, discernment, clearness and clerking.

Schools, generically, are, in general, a hazard to our young. The movie Waiting for Superman spoke to my condition. It seemed to be a follow up on the paper I wrote for Sociology of Education in 1971. Forty years later and....

The reason given for plain speech in my area was that "you" and the honorifics, short versions of Master and Mistress, were only given to equals and higher ups. The lower classes were thee and first names. In choosing to treat each person as an equal, the Quakers eliminated the honorifics and referred to all by thee. In French it is referred to as "tutoyer" and I had to explain to my French teacher why I would only tutoyer.

peacefully,
Friend Dorothy