Keith says.

"let us accept that this is a crime that the culture (not the religion) of the Pakistani community is largely responsible for."

so I say,

"You argue that the Moslem Pakistani community are responsible for the actions of organized criminals."

And you say:

"No I do not"

What you fail to see is that by generalizing about Moslem Pakistani culture, you are generalizing about Moslem Pakistanis

You make assumptions, nit just about Moslem Pakistani culture, but also about its homogenaiety.

The fact is Keith, that perceptions of culture in the Pakistani "community" are as wide ranging as their opinions on politics and football.

This notion of a homogenous Pakistani culture that you speak of is a stereotype that is imposed and that you happily accept as being true without stopping to consider for one moment that human beings are a considerably more complex species than your quick and easy formulae allow.

Keith,

In addition, you appear to be trying to seperate this false notion of "pakistani culture", as defined by Jack Straw and Anne Cryer, from Pakistani people.

This is a false distinction - culture means nothing without people.

It is not an abstract that can be seperated from the people it represents.

Culture is a description of how people coexist in society.

Pakistani culture is not a culture of organized crime.

Pakistani "community leaders" have no sway over the activities of organized criminals.


Saying "I don't have a problem with Pakistanis, just their culture" is a totally disingenuous way of blaming the Pakistani community for the activities of organized criminals without having to take responsibility for doing so.

Sorry, but those arestill, by definition, racist ideas, as they are based on culrural/racial stereotypes.


But I can see you are determined to make it acceptable to blame all British Pakistanis for the actions of a Pakistanbi crime Gang.

Apology still retracted.