bobster, i agree with the dumbed down nation. That is why I think voicing opinions against the advertisers is productive. It costs millions to make a commercial to hock a product. The last thing they want is for people to say, hey you want to spend your money supporting a show like this, I won't buy your product. It gets their attention really fast. In one of my clients call center database that I created, they got 10 calls on one of their commercial, after only 10 calls, they pulled the commercial and replaced it with something else. The theory is people have to be really upset to comment, and for each that do, there are hundreds or thousands that think the same way and won't buy our product. Hitting them via the people running ads on the show, that is a pain they don't want. If a big advertiser walks, the show is not very long for the TV world