Old dude, I really REALLY do not recommend taking a ladder (esp. aluminum) and putting it up to an electrical line. Wait till the shoes fall off. ============== It occurs to me that if the drug-dealing rumor is true, then the cops simply need to look for people who are standing around outdoors in their socks. ============== Mousethief, I learned that the two systems are called metric & Christian when I read an article about boat-building in Ireland. The Irish sailmakers showed up and the first thing they did was convert the blueprints "from metric to Christian."