lox getting into a debate with keith is pointless. he's as uneducated as heis ignorant.

i supose that when any western person commits a crime then thats a christian crime, is about as reasonable as stating that the "muslimcrimes" against young women are religoiusly based.

the real irony is a barron quoted in the beginning. a memmber of the british house of lords weighing in on racism and religious discrimination. that august body was onece the wold centre of religious discrimination and racism, as they scoured the world foe other peoples goods and cash under the old "laissez faire" empire(read military capitalism).

and that regime did organize widespread religious murder sexual abuse and genocide. of many examples is the ssystem of residential schools in north america run with government authority and by tyhe anglican, catholic and united churches. there over a century they had a death rate of fifty percent of the children in their care, mostly by neglicting the most basic healt precautions such as separating the infected with small pox, tuberculosis and other diseases from the healthy, but some openly beaten to death in front of the school to show an example. there was systematic sexual abuse--and sorry akenaton it was mostly hteresexual.

this is just one example. the children of abraham have no right to call names. they have participated directly and indirectly in the worst of the worlds abuses and genocides.

yes muslim countries have few protections against human rights abuse , but that is cultural and much like the situation with medieval christianity. that will likely change as they develop. especially in the west. in toronto the young ,muslims i knew were rarely much different in values that everyone else, in fact the major terrorist group arrested a few years ago was penerated by a young radically conservative muslim who acted as a mole and exposed them. he, though committed to salifist ideas, thought terrorism was wrong and evil and helped the police stamp it out when he was approached by the terrorst group to join.

now maybe people ought to occasionally consider that all these abrahamic faiths are medieval and sadly out of place in modern society. the old testiment is a litany of blood and genocie, the koran actually hasn't as much blood and gore but it has plenty. in the ten commandments god says he is a jealous god who will punish sinners unto the seventh generation--thatss an insane deity. and if you consider other cultures most have two classes of gods, devas and ashuras, of gods and titans etc. the jealous gods are the ashras and not generally viewed as worthy of worship.

i am certainly gatefull that i was untouched by the curse of christianity in myn upbringing. christianity pleads a lot of fime words when raping native or aborigional children, but the fine words don't mean a thing except that the christians who speak them are hypocrytes