Ah yes, Little Hawk is seeing things again . . . .

Sorry, Little Hawk, it doesn't matter what you think of the state of our society. You still have to address individuals as individuals, and it's still rude to tell people their thoughts are being supplied to them by outside forces. It's a really assaholic debating technique, and it seems to be one of the few you know.

The problem with your "fair and balanced" attitude is that there is a big difference between what most liberals believe and what most (so-called) conservatives believe. It mostly has to do with who gets to tell other people how to live their lives. When you give equal weight to both sides of that equation, especially in this discussion, you just end up sounding like someone who enables bigotry.