Thank you A for the links. From the comments I was expecting to see a load of cobblers, they are not bad, take note from what Dick said about the breathy singing, it annoys the shit out of me but the kids are buying it, don't really see the "mid atlantic accent" maybe a bid to make geordie understandable. Seems to me that they have two audiences and they will not please all of them all of the time but I think have the ability to do both. Oh dear, Patience Kershaw, very flat interpretation in my opinion I have heard better interpretations, that is quite a personal veiw and we are all different. Back to the thread, what really dictates the standing / sitting thing is the performance. There is a band in Cumbria (almost a Pogues tribute band), Bag of Spanners, who are very good and almost impossible to sit still to as were the York band Los Yobbos. As Lizzie pointed out sometimes it doesn't feel right to sit still. But for the four tracks I heard that doesn't seem so for their gig and may not be the venue for them. The problem lay with their management not them. The probable scenario is that someone will aproach the management and say I have ten venues all over the country you can have all ten for this price, boom boom, one phone call ten gigs.