""All the evidence has been set out for you by Keith, yet you yammer on, attempting to muddy the water, you and your ilk are the ones who are agenda driven...just the same as on the homosexual threads, you dont really give a flying fuck for Pakistanis or homosexuals, only defence of the indefencible liberal agenda.""

No! Keith has set out NO evidence which supports his contention that Pakistanis are culturally predisposed (however slightly) to Paedophile rape and trafficking underage girls.

What he has set out is opinion from Journalists, Politicians, and self styled "experts". Expert on what precisely?.........Sociology? NO!.......Psychology? NO!

The ex Home Secretary who managed to be looking the other way when those illegals Ake complains about were arriving.

Who couldn't keep track of asylum seekers so that those whose claims were denied were sort of mislaid.

My God, he couldn't even manage to deport convicted foreign criminals at the end of their sentences, allowing them on release to melt into the shadows.

How much, would you say, is his opinion worth?

And his other experts? Publicity hounds to the bone, whose opinions over the years have been somewhat flexible, but newsworthy.

I care a great deal more than you about the way in which we treat minorities, the evidence of which on this site is abundant.

You see Ake, I am not (as you would like to portray) the least bit interested in any "Liberal" ideal. The difference between me and you, Laddie, is that I see them as people, while you see them as problems needing a solution.

I would really like to take you and Keith out of your comfortable smug self satisfied little world, and put you in the position of those you so despise.

Three months in a traveller community, or dressed up with a beard and turban in an Asian enclave would do wonders for your education.

Don T.