Yes, they see what they want to see, and they believe or disbelieve what they want to disbelieve, josepp. That's what I've been saying.

Very few indeed are those willing to even consider that they might be wrong about something and that someone else might be right about something that is different from what they believe.

There is no way to prove that there is no life anywhere else in the Universe...but how likely a proposition is that anyway? (unless you're a religious fundamentalist who believes that God ordained this planet Earth...and this planet ALONE...to harbour life?) I would think that nothing else but a kind of blind religious fanaticism could possibly lead anyone to so unlikely a conclusion as that.

It would be about on the level of some people on a tiny, isolated island somewhere on this planet thinking that there's no other island or piece of land out there across the great waters containing other living people or animals. About that silly, in my opinion. And I'm sure there were people in earlier who believed stuff like that...until other people came on ships and proved them wrong.

Whether there are advanced races out there with alien technology who can easily travel between solar systems and galaxies...or not...I don't know. But there very well may be. We have no particular reason to believe there aren't...except ingrained habit. And ingrained habit is just this: "I ain't never seen one a them things in my life. Therefore they don't exist! Don't talk to me about nothin' I ain't seen, cos if I ain't seen it, it ain't real."

Hillbilly logic.

Hillbillys see only what they want to most of the time too. If they see something they didn't want to, though, well...that gets them really upset! ;-D They may convert to a new belief or they may just go into some sort of hysterical denial pattern.

Bill - If you did see what I saw, I think you'd put your analytical mind to work on it and theorize what you thought were the most likely explanations. And it could only really be one of two.

1. it's a secret vehicle that our own military people built
2. it's a visiting alien vehicle of some sort

You would then set about making a guess as to which explanation was the more likely of the two...but would have no way of deciding for an absolute certainty which explanation was the right one.

And that's where I stood after seeing that vehicle (and another one, a different type of vehicle, not too long after that during the same summer). I still don't know for sure what they were, other than to say that they were very advanced and unusual vehicles, vehicles which I could not identify as to their origin, and I have never been able to identify since. No presently serving military vehicles that I know of would match them, and it's been over 40 years now since I saw them.

Either way, that's some impressive level of government security to keep those things unknown, wouldn't you say?