The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #132809   Message #3110007
Posted By: Bill D
08-Mar-11 - 06:55 PM
Thread Name: BS: Hey skeptics, UFOs over NYC today
Subject: RE: BS: Hey skeptics, UFOs over NYC today
No need for polygraph, Bobert. I don't think anyone is making up stories like you & Little Hawk tell..(well, maybe a 'few').

But the LACK of hard evidence suggests to me that something don't add up.

1)If they can been 'occasionally' seen, that means they should be 'occasionally' photographed...or at least seen by large groups of people at the same time...and NOT just as 'weird lights in the sky', but as actual solid objects.

2) I know that 'science marches on' and people in 1700 would NOT have believed what we have today...but the metaphor has its limits! We have today a MUCH better idea of what technology is and can...even theoretically... do. Because we "... have powered flying machines, exceed the speed of sound, travel at 100 miles per hour in a horseless carriage, take xrays, send radio transmissions," etc., we can also measure and calculate the known limits of these things, and just saying that ..."they" must have technology that allows FTL speeds and gravity-defying acceleration and soundless drives doesn't explain much, as the reasoning is circular - requiring you to 'believe' in each to prove the other.

3)We DO have good reason & evidence to posit other theories and explanations for sightings that don't involve extraterrestrials. Just because 'some' events have not adequately BEEN explained...yet... does not show they have no earthly explanation.

Remember... *I* want to lose this debate! I would dearly love to lose. I just have seen too many documentaries about strange stuff that people believe...ET, Yeti, ghosts...the list goes on and keeps the late night TV channels filled.