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Thread #135090   Message #3128064
Posted By: Jim Carroll
04-Apr-11 - 03:54 AM
Thread Name: BS: Muslim prejudice
Subject: RE: BS: Muslim prejudice
"........ loaded with irrelevance and lies."
And your usual tactic is to not read what people have said and to ignore the points they have made.
"Africans (disease-ridden and not worthy of treatment, as you described them)."
I defy you or anybody to read your to read your first dozen posts on the'Death penalty for homosexuals' thread and NOT come up with this picture - you first present Africans, then immigrants as aids carriers, then you ask 'who is going to pay for their medical treatment' - it's there for anybody to see - go and look.
Whatever I suggest here may be right or wrong - you are the one parading your infallibility while admitting your ignorance, but these matters certainly are not IRRELEVANT - if my suggestions are wrong - prove them so with facts and statistics - and stop denying what is down in black and white.
"False. All the victims say it was BPs."
STREET GROOMING TAKES PLACE IN ANY RED-LIGHT, VICE INFESTED AREA, NO MATTER WHO LIVES THERE AND WHATEVER NATIONALITY. THESE ARE RANDOM EXAMPLES TAKEN WHERE THERE ARE HIGH POPULATIONS OF PAKISTANIS - OF COURSE THERE WILL BE A HIGH PROPORTION OF PAKISTANI PIMPS AN CRIMINALS INVOLVED. GO TO ANY RUN-DOWN, POVERTY STRICKEN AREA AND YOU WILL BE PRESENTED WITH A CROSS-SECTION OF THAT AREA - WEST INDIAN, IRISH, EUROPEAN, INDIGINOUS BRIT.... WHATEVER - THE VICTIM/CRIMINAL SAMPLE WILL REFLECT THE CULTURAL MAKE-UP OF THAT AREA. THIS HAS BEEN THE CASE THROUGHOUT HISTORY.
And as Jack Straw, trial judges, police and social workers have all said, there are no racial conclusions to be drawn from this and it is highly dangerous and irresponsible for anybody to do so (perhaps you didn't read the bits you edited out?)
Apart from anything else, so far you have based your 'conclusions' almost entirely on press cuttings. The claims you have consistently made here need to be based on organised surveys, properly carried out by responsible and skilled experts (certainly not brain-deads who regard immigrants as disease-carriers who should be left to die) before they can be even taken seriously, let alone have cultural conclusions drawn. Such surveys have not been carried out and what little we do know is based entirely on hearsay reports gathered randomly and unscientifically, and quite often reaching us via newspapers with their own agendas (have you ever read the any of these local papers with anti-immigration agendas - The Daily Mail written by chimpanzees with typwriters)
'Long post......'
Once again you whine about the length of my (and others) posts.
These are complex questions involving race, culture, beliefs ethnology... They (should) involve the gathering of complex detailed information, and sifting and analysing that information carefully and thoughtfully.
How the **** are you going to understand that work using sound-bites?
Nobody here, apart from yourself, has put any definitive claims (British Pakstanis are culturally degenerate and inclined to paedophilia).
How dare you put forward such a dangerous and damaging suggestion if you are incapable ad obviously unwilling of reading anything consisting of more than half-a-dozen sentences?
Jim Carroll
PS And by the way - asking Lively such a profound and loaded question is yet again an attempt to gather ammunition for your racist case - is he or anybody in a position to make such a profound judgement?