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Thread #26134   Message #313209
Posted By: Malcolm Douglas
05-Oct-00 - 09:41 PM
Thread Name: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
Three more midis and a note:

THE CROPPIE BOY filename[ CROPPIE1  Transcribed from a record?  Colm O Lochlainn gives this version in Irish Street Ballads vol.2, and comments:

"...Contributed to The Nation, 1845, by "Carrol Malone", said to be Dr. James McBurney of Belfast...The air is that mentioned in Henry V by Shakespeare [as] Callino Custurame for which see Éigse, vols.i-iii, Cailín ó Chois tSúire mé and Chappell: Old English Popular Music, vol.i, p.84, where it is traced back to 1584."

HENRY JOY MCCRACKEN filename[ HENRYJO2  No source named.  Midi made from the version in Colm O Lochlainn's Irish Street Ballads vol.1  O Lochlainn comments:

"...I turned...up [the tune] in the complete Petrie Collection, Piii, 558, The Belfast Mountains.  The song...was written by P.J. McCall, author of Boulavogue."

"dream" in verse 1 line 3 should be "dree".

RISE UP JOCK filename[ RISEJOCK  Transcribed from a record by Roberts and Barrand, who seem to have made numerous alterations, mostly small but in a few cases very annoying, to the song written by Bob Pegg (who is not credited in the entry).  I've put parallel texts in a separate thread, here:  Rise Up Jock: original version  midi made from Pegg's original recording, on He Came from the Mountains (Bob and Carole Pegg, Trailer LER 3016, 1971)

Note:

THE WOMEN ARE WORSE THAN THE MEN filename[ DEVLWIF5  This is the version from Colm O Lochlainn's Irish Street Ballads vol.1; presumably that is the version of which John of Brisbane has already sent in a midi.  O Lochlainn had the song from D. Maguire of Belfast in 1912.  The text in the DT completely fails to mention that there is an interlaced refrain, and also omits the first verse.  Here it is, showing how the song was actually sung:

Is it true that the women are worse than the men?
Right fol right fol tiddy fol lay;
Is it true that the women are worse than the men?
That they went down to hell and were thrown out again?
With your right fol lol tiddy fol lol,
Fol the dol lol the dol, lol the dol lay.

Malcolm