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Thread #137517   Message #3147221
Posted By: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish
03-May-11 - 03:01 PM
Thread Name: BS: Teenage Suicide
Subject: RE: BS: Teenage Suicide
"...Page after page of whining self-pity. Lizzie, a sense of proportion, particularly about yourself, would make you much happier...."

Nope, if you'd read most of my posts, you'd see they're about other people, actually. People I know who have struggled, or are struggling at the moment.....

Ralph, what happened to your wife is nothing to do with me. IF you have been 'taking it out on me' for so very long because of what happened to your wife, I'd ask you to now leave it alone. I have ALWAYS backed brilliant teachers, said over and again that I have the utmost respect for them, but that always goes unmentioned in your posts and those of others. I have no respect for bad teachers though, because they do untold damage, much of which can last for very many years.

My children, as well you know, were put next to the kind of children your partner lost her job over, in the hope some of their calm quietness would rub off on the troubled kids. It never did, it just distressed my children even more. You know that, so why do you make out that I have no idea what goes on in schools? It's always puzzled me.

This thread is about the distressing matter of teenage suicide. I'm saying that *part* of the reasons some young people are killing themselves is to do with the insanity caused by examination stress and by bullying also.

Interestingly, not a single person has commented on that video I put on, the one telling the story of the young 15 year old lad who killed himself due to exam pressure..and the THIRTY other young students who also commiteed suicide that month alone in India. Not a single word has been spoken.

Neither has anyone commented on the way children bully each other senseless, on the internet, on their mobile phones..and how they film children being half kicked to death, putting it on Youtube, or forwarding it to their mates....ALL these things contribute to the shocking fact that so many young people are choosing death over life.

Comment on those FACTS, not on me. I am NOT the one droning on and on about me, it is you folks...all the usual suspects. Leave it alone and comment on some of the things I've mentioned which are exactly to do with what this thread is about.

Oh, and Ralph, for you information, my friend who committed suicide, the teacher I spoke of earlier, was accused by a young female student of improper conduct. This had NOT happened, but the damage was caused to his soul...She used to phone him up at home, I've no idea how she got the number, but she did. Obviously, he reported it, but mud sticks, as well you know. That, and other factors in his life, took their toll.

I'm sorry for what happened to your partner, but it's not my fault. Perhaps you need to take a step back and see that. Also read the part where I talk about teachers needing counsellors. In the other thread, now closed down, of course, because that's what tends to happen on any education thread or any thread about young people..I also put in a video about the terrible stress and depression experienced by teachers, but again, no-one mentioned that either.

So much is going wrong in our society. It's no good though pretending 'it's always been this way', because it hasn't. What folks need to do is admit to this major problem, then try to sort out what it is that's causing it.

And yes, it IS 'a personal vendetta' Ralph, by a few people, always has been, as well you know, because as I've mentioned above, I DO see both sides of the story, put links in to that effect too, but all of that is completely overlooked in all this PV stuff that goes on.

And no, I don't 'delight' at all. I do however get really pissed off when ostriches stick their heads down so far into the sand, when all of this pain is going on. It is NOT delight, but frustration. As I said so many times, I know that many folks on here are teachers, and if just ONE of them thinks differently, does something differently, because of any of the links I put in, or any of the experiences I write about which have happened to other folks, then that is just fine by me.   

It has nothing to do with you Ralph at all, nor the other folks who follow me round, merely that I have experienced, first-hand, the pain and trauma that is caused by what is going on inside our education system today.