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Thread #137528   Message #3148368
Posted By: Jim Carroll
05-May-11 - 05:45 AM
Thread Name: BS: obit: Osama Bin Laden ???
Subject: RE: BS: obit: Osama Bin Laden ???
"If the nation concerned has no objections, "
Pakistan was not asked and no nation should be invaded by foreign troops in order to carry out an assassination - so you are granting any power the right to invade Britain and seek permission afterwards - piss off Keith, your prattism get prattier.
As far not protesting - how loud would you protest if an armed bully broke into your house - the Pakistanis protested as loud as they dared - stop lying and prevaricating.
As you still don't comment on the US's use of torture and imprisonment without trial - I assume you support that on the basis that the victims haven't protested loud enough, so must be in favour of it?
Don't ring us - we'll ring you!
I understand that the killing of bin Laden is now to be made into a video game, and I also understand that, as the information leading to his capture was gained through torture, there has been a call from a US senator to continue using it as a means of information gathering.
I also read that four London Metropolitan policemen are now standing trial for the beating up of a terrorist suspect - the disease appears to be contageous.
A letter to the Irish Times this morning sums up my own feelings pretty well - I was particularly moved by the quote from Nurenberg.

"The killing of Osama bin Laden was not the justice that President Obama, a constitutional lawyer, learned about in an American law school.
The scenes of jubilation in Washington DC and New York City were understandable, but regrettable. While bin Laden's death may have been unavoidable -1 hope that it was - far better had he been captured and tried to the highest standards, which the US president pledged to abide by. In his inauguration speech the president said: "Our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint." If in fact bin Laden's death was avoidable, then a unique chance for the United States to show the very best of itself to the world was lost, even though the president may benefit in terms of electoral politics.
In 1945, Robert H Jackson, the chief United States prosecutor, said in a court in Nuremberg: "That four great nations, flushed with victory and stung with injury stay the hand of vengeance and voluntarily submit their captive enemies to the judgment of the law is one of the most significant tributes that Power ever has paid to Reason." –"
Yours, etc,
RENE ROSENSTOCK,

Jim Carroll