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Thread #136964   Message #3149824
Posted By: Jim Dixon
07-May-11 - 11:46 AM
Thread Name: BS: Bullying
Subject: RE: BS: Bullying
From the link that Folkiedave provided:
Gunsalus distinguishes between traditional, assertive bullies, who throw their weight around with bluster and force, and 'victim bullies,' who use claims of having been wronged to gain leverage over others.(pp. 123-4) Unlike simple passive-aggression, victim bullies use accusations as weapons, and ramp up the accusations over time. Unlike a normal person, who would slink away in shame as the initial accusations are discredited, a victim bully lacks either guilt or shame, honestly believing that s/he has been so egregiously wronged in some cosmic way that anything s/he does or says is justified in the larger scheme of things. So when the initial accusations are dismissed, the victim bully's first move is a sort of double-or-nothing, raising the absurdity and the stakes even more.
Yes, that description sounds familiar.

The funny thing is, in many of the arguments I see at Mudcat, the description fits people on both sides of the argument.

Case in point: In the first version of the "Zen" story, no-one is a victim, but the second version reframes it so that the disciples are portrayed as victims of the strange malicious "creature."

How do you get people to stop thinking of themselves as victims? It's one of the great mysteries of the age.