I'll try to make this brief...but suicide is usually not caused from rejecting one's self, but rather, from one's sense of doing all he could, and never being 'good enough' to be accepted.
For instance, when a person is talking suicide, one of the worse things to tell that person is "Oh, but we love you...etc." That isn't what they are thinking...it makes them further think that NOBODY understands....and it even hurts them further to hear that!!
But rather, let that person KNOW how important HE (or SHE) is, and how much they really ARE appreciated, but nobody ever really expresses it to them. They have to be built up, and given the feeling that their own life, has been so beneficial to so many people, and in so many deep ways..and that they are so very much important, etc. etc...(True story)..I know, I've had to do it, and one not really that long ago!
Gawd!...where do these people come from?..and why do they seem to get around me??,,,,but I tell you, it's really, though, very mentally exhausting, it's also very ..umm...I guess the word is, both draining, and like you've given it your 'all'..just to save a life, that is really shaky.

Now, as to that 'other' subject.....don't you remember, when you were telling me about that time that you were........

wink(on the last part, only)

GfS