The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #136793   Message #3153839
Posted By: JohnInKansas
14-May-11 - 04:42 AM
Thread Name: Tech: Internet Explorer and Mudcat issue
Subject: RE: Tech: Internet Explorer and Mudcat issue
Although the annoying "script modification" notices have disappeared, and some other annoyances have been somewhat reduced, there still appears to be a problem with IE and Java.

A long time ago, Microsoft came up with their own versions of Java, and it was automatically included in IE. The Microsoft version ran Java scripts in a "virtual machine" mode, and apparently was able to handle both "Java text scripts" and some sort of "compiled Java."

Sun Microsystems quite logically felt that a Microsoft version of Java infringed their proprietary rights, and there was a long-running legal debate.

A settlement was reached that allowed Microsoft to continue distributing their "Java VM" in IE under a "courtesy permission" until some time in 2007. Microsoft continued to "provide support" (oxymoron????) until sometime in 2009, but the Microsoft "virtual machine Java" is no longer available (except from a few pirate sites?). Microsoft now officially sends you to Sun to get Java.

It appears now that some Java scripts that were designed to work with the old Microsoft "Java virtual machine" no longer work with Sun Java, although the Sun Java I've been using for several years used to work just fine for them.

I can't offer any explanations or solutions, but it looks a lot like somebody's out for revenge for past sins (or intended future ones?). Regardless of who's out to hurt whom (if that's really the problem), we seem to be the only real victims.

John