Don(Wyziwyg)T - Date: 14 May 11 - 05:55 PM

Missed the points I made entirely

"the action of a vigilante is:

1: Totally unauthorised, completely unofficial.

2: The independent action of a private individual or a small group of like minded private individuals who have no official standing.

So according to Don(Wyziwyg)T:

- The US Navy Seal Team that killed bin Laden were unauthorised and had no official status - which we all know and appreciate is complete and utter bullshit

- The raid carried out by the US NAvy SEAL Team was undertaken entirely off their own bat - Again which we all know and appreciate is complete and utter bullshit

As to this heinous crime of the forces of one country operating in another? Extremely old and accepted principle originally known as the right of "Hot Trod" along the Anglo-Scottish Border, in modern times it became known as the right to exercise "Hot Pursuit". There apparently was a secret agreement between the US and Pakistani Governments that allowed the US to undertake this mission with respect to bin Laden and the leadership of Al-Qaeda. The desirability and necessity of such an agreement from the point of view of both parties should be blatantly obvious to all. Khalid Sheikh Muhammad after all was captured by the Pakistani ISI and handed over to the Americans - Why? As proof of their commitment? No way could they do the same with Osama bin Laden the uproar would have been deafening, no wonder they left it to the "infidel" Americans, much more acceptable solution to the problem.

More complete and utter bullshit from Don T:
"A very pragmatic point of view Jeri, but the killings have started, and whatever Bobad thinks (and his record is far from unbiased), the fact that they were Pakistani deaths doesn't mean they can simply be written off as irrelevant."

Ah so the killings have just started have they?? What the hell do you think that the Tehrik-i-Taliban (Pakistani Taleban) have been doing for the last two or three years? Mullah Muhammad Omar the leader of the Quetta Shura and the Afghan Taleban has actually pleaded with the Tehrik-i-Taliban to stop attacks inside Pakistan because ultimately 150 million non-Pashtun Pakistani's are going to get fed up with bombs going off in market places and shopping centres, put two and two together and turn on the Taleban and they will not distinguish between the Pakistani and Afghan varieties. But they, the TTP, have studiously ignored him - so much for solidarity.

Not surprising really as the Pakistani Government came to an agreement with the Pakistan Taliban over Swat Province which allowed Talib contol over this area under Sharia law but it required the Pakistani Taliban to disarm - which of course they never did. Shortly after moving into Swat the Pakistani Taliban then turned their attention to the neighbouring Buner Province and that was the straw that broke the camel's back as far as the Pakistani Government was concerned. The Pakistani Border Police and Army conducted a full scale military attack on the Taliban in Buner, in Swat and in South Waziristan. And that Don(Wyziwyg)T is why the TTP carry out suicide bombing attacks in Pakistan - It has got nothing whatsoever to do with Osama bin Laden - but convenient excuse for propaganda purposes though. Bigger flare up over cartoons and burning books.