Pinochet "embodied the state".    Evidence please.

And Gaddafi's obvious desire for "victory or martyrdom"   tells us all we need to know about his flexibility--except to touchingly naive posters who desperately want to believe he is just another reasonable person unjustifiably attacked by--who else--the evil West.

Certainly is fascinating that the people opposing Western involvement in Libya are such world-class masters of mewling piteously that the West always supports tyrants.   Yet when the West attacks a tyrant, suddenly that's not what said people wanted after all.

The suspicion arises that these posters don't even know what they themselves want--except to be card-carrying members of the "ain't it awful" school.

Whatever it is, "ain't it awful".