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Thread #135090   Message #3171440
Posted By: Jim Carroll
16-Jun-11 - 09:39 AM
Thread Name: BS: Muslim prejudice
Subject: RE: BS: Muslim prejudice
As you seem to be holding a converation mainly with yourself - thought I'd point this out.
From your scan of the Barnardo report:
"the children had 'been forgotten as discussion has focused on the ethnicity of perpetrators in high-profile cases."
Which is what you are continuing to do here.
The Barnardo report, unlike you, makes no attempt to link abuse to any one race or culture, yet you continue with your crusade to make it a "British Pakistani cultural thing" - don't you read your own cut and pastes?
While you continue to make this a race/culture issue you are continuing to "forget" the fate of these children

The figure of 2,756 cases of abuse refers only to one year (2009) of abuse, which makes the around hundred or so examples over a number of years that you have produced so far as miniscule as it acutually is and puts the problem into context.
A report carried by the Guardian early this year made clear the attitude of Barnardos, Ceop and others in attempting to make this a racial issue.

"The sexual exploitation of children cannot "be simplified along ethnic lines", the head of the child protection agency said today.
Peter Davies was announcing that the Child Exploitation and Online Protection (Ceop) centre is to investigate "on-street" grooming, leading to abuse and exploitation.
He said: "Child sexual exploitation is not exclusive to any single culture, community, race or religion - it cuts across all communities. Neither can it be simplified along ethnic lines where the victims constitute one ethnicity and offenders another."
"We need to continue to build our understanding about the different types of threats faced by children across a range of environments."
Ceop's assessment would establish "whether it is accurate to identify any patterns of offending, victimisation, or vulnerability within these cases" as well as identifying how victims and offenders could be better identified.
Davies said the investigation was prompted by "recent events" including the conviction of Asian men in Derbyshire for abusing girls as young as 12, which sparked claims from Jack Straw, the Labour former home secretary, of a cultural problem in the Pakistani community.
Two men, identified in Operation Retriever as the gang's ringleaders, Mohammed Liaqat, 28, and Abid Saddique, 27, were sentenced on Friday to a minimum of eight and 11 years respectively at Nottingham crown court for raping and sexually abusing their victims. They would seek out and befriend girls in Derby as young as 12, often plying them with alcohol and drugs and groom them for sex, before passing the girls onto older men. The judge in the case said he did not believe the case was racially aggrevated, saying that the race of victims and abusers were coincidental.
However, Straw, the MP for Blackburn, sparked a furious backlash from MPs and children's groups after he told the BBC's Newsnight that vulnerable white girls were seen as "easy meat" by some Pakistani men. He said it was a "specific problem" within the Pakistani community which needed to be "more open" about it.
His comments were criticised by children's charity, Barnardos, Muslim youth group the Ramadhan Foundation and retired detective chief superintendent Max McLean, who led a previous investigation into sexual exploitation involving young girls in Leeds. All said he was wrong to highlight one community. Barnardo's chief executive, Martin Narey, said on-street grooming was "probably happening in most towns and cities" and was not confined to the Pakistani community.
Last week, authors of the first independent academic analysis into child sex trafficking within the UK, which focused on two police investigations in the North and the Midlands, also warned of the dangers of racial stereotyping amid claims of a widespread problem of Pakistani men exploiting underage white girls.
Keith Vaz, the chairman of the Commons home affairs select committee, who had described Straw's comments as "dangerous", said Ceop will be asked to give evidence on its inquiry to the committee.
"A thorough and comprehensive national investigation on street grooming is urgently needed," he said. "A full investigation will give the police the information they need to target the criminals and criminal networks involved in this hideous crime."
Ceop said its findings would be made public within three to six months time."

Yesterdays Times includes the following about the 2009 figures, following on from online contact with their victims:

"For others, initial contact with their abuser happened in town centres, on street corners, in shopping malls, train or bus stations or outside school gates."
In other words - street grooming, which you have desparately attempted to make an exclusively 'Pakistani' thing, happens everywhere and includes all races and cultures.
Jim Carroll