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Thread #127472   Message #3173651
Posted By: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
20-Jun-11 - 11:42 PM
Thread Name: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
John P; "On the non-terrorist economic front, also unaddressed is the cut cut cut taxes philosophy. How does this work, if we still want to fund our government?"

OK, I'll answer each part individually. Much of the tax increases will be used to pay off the debt, and the increases that went to fund CORPORATE bailouts, to which are not being used to create jobs, as the American public was led to believe. Funding the government is one thing, funding crony supporters, who corrupt the government, is quite another! This, administration, as well as others before it, have superseded the will of their electorate, by funneling our resources to them, rather than facilitating the public, of whom they were elected to represent. In short, the government, which you and I are supposed to be a part of, are now subject to globalist corporate dictates, with OUR money supporting them, rather than a representative government, carrying out the will OF THE PEOPLE, and taxing us, for the facilitation of those services. In even shorter, it is fraud!

John P: "How does the desire to do away with regulation of the financial markets not play into the hands of greedy fatcats who buy our Congresspeople and force their "make me even richer" policies down our throats?"

Doing away with the regulations that limit excessive corrupting practices, I would not support. Leaving freedom to expand and develop, businesses and technology, or to invent, I would like to see relaxed, but within the parameters of the already existing anti-monopoly, anti-trust laws, which BTW, are not enforced, as long as they DO NOT intrude on the rights of others, to do the same..nor should they be used to keep competing smaller entrepreneurs, from doing the same.
All to often, some corporation, with its money and influencing power, get their fingers on our elected officials throats, to look another way, and pass legislation creating a loophole, from which the business(es), use leverage to foist upon the public, a new 'law', or artificially create a demand, in which that said business forces the public to HAVE to patronize their business, or service. This practice should be illegal, and enforced, as such!.....speaking of which...
The medical profession: We have heard that Medicaid is in financial trouble, and needs to be replaced with this new Health Care crap. First of all, Medicaid is OK..EXCEPT for the fraud, which is said to have risen the cost(conservatively speaking), to at least 35%. would see to it that ANY medical office, agent, doctor, hospital, clinic, laboratory, pharmacy, or any related attorneys, or accounting offices found involved in defrauding the government(us), would face stiff criminal charges, including the shutting down of such said practices, and mandatory jail time! The same goes for insurance companies, financial institutions, or legal services!! We have enough 'laws' on the books..how about enforcing them....and by the way, any government official found NOT enforcing them, due to a 'special interest', which goes contrary to the law, would immediately face, not only removal from that position, but restitution, and jail time..regardless of party affiliation, or tenure!! NO favors granted, when it comes to violating the trust that the people should have, in those looking out for us...on our nickle!! Fair enough?

As to the first question(s): "Are these quasi-terrorist activities, or not? If not, why not? What about their desire to force their religious/moral values on the rest of us?"

I think that people showing up with their guns waving in the air is just plain stupid. Whether it is a 'terrorist' activity would depend on what else they do with that gun. Any party should vigorously discourage those displays of anger, or threats. In most states, there are laws against, 'brandishing a weapon', and/or 'menacing'. If any party wants to gain supporters, they should do so legally. A little while back, on this forum, one particular(unnamed) member posted, "It's time to rise up.."..with connotations of violent revolution. I responded with a smarty pants remark "Get some Viagra". I did this only to discourage what could be seen as inflammatory seditious solicitations, coming from us, here on Mudcat!..not that I don't understand, or empathize with his feelings...(I did him a favor, mixed it with a little humor.. but he probably didn't take it that way...too bad!)

Although that may, or may not eventually happen, I don't think that is any less inflammatory that waving firearms in the air, or jacking rounds in the chamber! I do NOT support a violent overthrow of the government, however, that being said, I could see supporting one's own self defense. I WOULD support the government enforcing the very laws that would/could prevent an overthrow, due to people's frustration with loopholes and unenforced laws, causing people to think that an overthrow should be necessary. The anger that has risen in this country is mostly caused by government's corrupt dealings with corrupt 'special interests', and imposing their wills, over our rights! Perhaps a little less tolerance from our elected officials, of these practices would gladly be met by the support of the citizenry...you think??...a little exposure to the public, and a responding public outcry, may just get a momentum going, in that direction....regardless of party affiliation.

John P: "...What about their desire to force their religious/moral values on the rest of us?"

Muslims??????? Christians????? Unitarians??? Jehovah Witnesses???? Catholics??? Protestants??? Astrologists???? Buddhists???? Capitalists??? Communists??? Socialists??? Atheists??????!!?? ..and so on....?

I hope I was able to clarify your queries.

Regards to All!! (Please forgive any typos)

GfS