It is funny how people see things differently about Harleys etc. I know someone who describes it as riding an armchair therefore not for real biking, but it still turns heads nevertheless. Bill D I see what you mean about the Vincent Black Shadow it was a beautiful bike. As I see it people with the It factor are still mentioned long after they are gone. Audrey Hepburn had It as far as I was concerned, more so in later years when she did a lot of humanitarian work.

The reason I think Jagger/Lennon and some of the others lost it in the 70s was because of the excesses of their hedonistic lifestyles they became as artificial as everyone else.